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Old Jul 25, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58   #61
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Stop playing games you nerd.
Stop posting flames you idiot.
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 10:03 PM // 22:03   #62
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, I haven't slept for more than 6 hours in one night in years.
I rarely ever have slept more then 6 hours in a night. Don't like too, 6hrs is all I need to be productive, unless I am sick, then I sleep til I am well.
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 10:15 PM // 22:15   #63
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- You have work to finish but you're playing GW
oh well that reminds me of learning for tests. Suddenly you start to clean your room repair stuff that didn't bother you at all an all that other stuff that suddenly seems much more important then learning
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 10:44 PM // 22:44   #64
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I can understand the arguments for both/against gaming.

I suppose my single issue is thus...

I play for 2-3 hours a night, sporadically.
I am 19, I go to a very good college, but in the summer (i.e., now) I work in a lawfirm 9 hours a day (am at work now lol), play GW a fair amount, work out about the same, but see my girlfriend and my friends a lot as well

I guess the main issue is balance. That's what life is all about. Indeed, your female friend should probably get off her high horse, especially because you only play 2 hours a day. She probably watches TV hours on end, which is simply mind melting for me.

You know it's a becoming a bit of a problem when you get several signs:
You would prefer to talk on vent with guildies rather than go out with friends...mainly because you really just can't beat human contact face-to-face.
You play the game to the exclusion of other activities solely. E.g., if you begin to arrive late to work/class because of gaming, you may want to re-examine your time.
You suffer physically because of a lack of physical activity (if you can't help this, then you can't and you shouldn't worry about it)
You begin to neglect responsibilities because of gaming
Your work/Grades suffer because of gaming

I suppose the South Park WoW episode is a good example of where casual, good natured gaming becomes obsession.

I play a lot, this is a given. But I like to keep my life balanced. I go AFK a lot, and I let my brother play on my account a lot.

Balance is key to happiness, it's nice to keep everything in perspective.

Wholeheartedly, though, I agree with most of you, especially Freekedoutfish
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 10:50 PM // 22:50   #65
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Really to me it's about flexibility.

With Guild Wars I am able to leave the world for days, weeks or months depending on my real life situation. This could range from anything from a new game coming out the I have to play (this makes games last shorter for me) to a lot of homework or a summer vacation.

The only time where I get frustrated is if I can't do something fun all day which happens every once and a while. Of course almost everyone else does too... and those who aren't are called workaholics which also seems to be bad somehow....

Really life to me isn't about "balance" it's about doing things you love while getting everything you need. Video games are something I love and maybe one day I can change that into a job and become a game designer.
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Old Jul 25, 2007, 11:09 PM // 23:09   #66
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Old Jul 26, 2007, 09:06 AM // 09:06   #67
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I might have quite an extreme position on this. First of all all things you do in life is ultimatly rendered pointless since death strips it all away (I guess I'll have to admit being an atheist for this to hold true). I can also only repeat what others have already said about what you do with your sparetime is only your business and as long as you're satisfied for whatever reason they should back of (short of hurting others, of course). I'd take it further tough and say all about your life is only your business - If you want to mess yourself up that's fine too in my book as long as it is your choice.

You hardly need to be so extreme to decide wether you can game with a "clear counsiness" or not tough, just agreeing to "your sparetime - your business" is enough.

I wonder tough, are you really totally satisfied with your life? I'm not judging at all here and I think the living conditions you've described are fine as long as you are happy with them. However, from the tone of some things you've voiced it definately seems that something is worrying you. Is it that you think other folks (like your brother) shouldn't be judging you and you're just tired of it or could it be that you're not really happy with your situation and wish you we're more like the other people around you? If the second is true would you think it's only because you're getting their ideals pushed onto you that you wish it or would you genuinly wish to lead another life (who wouldn't want to improve something in their life tough? Ideally I'd like to be a mage living in a fantasy world ).

If you're just tired of people trying to push their ideals on you just say red engine them and learn to shake it of you - too bad they don't agree with your choices but that's their problem. If however you want a change try to find a way, meet some new people that are more like you or try to find folks that do the stuff you'd like to. And don't think you're a lone freak, there are always people that are more or less like you out there, it's just a matter of finding them. The internet can be a good way to meet new people. Personally I found most of the friends I hang out with now through studies oat the Uni and taking a stray course or something in a subject that holds some interest to you might be a way but it's just a suggestion among others.

Being a loner is also perfectly fine. I go nuts if I am forced to be social for several days, not if I am forced to be alone. It's all personal ideals. It's true tough that (almost) all humans need love and some social interaction with other humans. It's highly individual to which degree tough and there are lots of ways to be social other than to just go and hang at a bar. Playing GW can definately be one way. Chatting over the phone another or just saying hi to your brother at the morning might be enough.

Final point is only you are the relevant judge of how you lead your life! There's no such thing as an objectivly ideal life, it's all subjective so don't let someone elses ideal be showed onto you. The only one who needs to lead your life is you so don't worry about the rest. Play as much games and watch as much movies as you deem fit!
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Old Jul 26, 2007, 09:43 AM // 09:43   #68
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I find myself being bored of video games.... but I find nothing else to do.

I turn on my PC to check mail, forums, IM, and eventually turn on GW for a quick RA match, or Oblivion for some eye candy/epic battles.

I don't really like to go out, unless a friend takes me. I should learn how to drive, but I can't be bothered. Everyone pushes me to learn it, but I know, once I learn it, I will have no excuse of not going to parties etc. and my friends won't take me because " I know how to drive". I'll lock myself up even more.

Sometimes I think my mother is overprotective. I'm an only child, there are no other kids in my neighbourhood, or they're either too young, or shy. I'm not shy, I just don't want to waste energy on meeting other people.
I don't have a job(student), although my mom says I should get a part time job, so I can pay for my own leisure. But I can't drive to work. Dilemma.

2 weeks ago I went to Sicily. Had a great time, met lots of people(including girls!). It felt good to have 2 weeks without a PC.( I study Computer Science, 50% of my day was spent behind a PC )

I have another "hobby". I play sax in a local band. Don't like it too much, we practice every friday night...Instead I'd rather stay home and play video games or go out. (This is my big exuse: Most friends go out on fridays, I can't, I have to practice, and when we finish, I'm too tired)

I'm 19, haven't had a real girlfriend in 7 years. I should do something about my weight(It's not THAT bad, but losing 20 pounds would make me a whole lotta better)

I don't know how to continue with my life....play video games? I'd rather make them. That's why I'm studying CS. But I failed 5 out of 12 courses this year, so I have to redo those exams by the end of August. Instead of learning in books, I tell my mom I'm learning to program for my exams(but actually I'm just writing this post here ) , while most of my failed courses are not pc related.

I should find a healthier hobby. I was thinking of cycling or swimming. A girlfriend wouldn't hurt as well... My bioclock is ticking . My family's pushing me really hard to have loads of kids, as I am the only descendant that can continue the family name. My 2 uncles all have daughters. At this rate, I'll never ever have kids.

I enjoy some TV shows. Battlestar Galactica, Simpsons, Southpark, other comedies.

Perhaps I should really learn how to drive...I'll get my parents' old Peugeot 306.

So, is this the fault of videogames? Or am I just another psycho?
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Old Jul 26, 2007, 09:47 AM // 09:47   #69
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Life should be fun..

If you think gaming is fun..

Btw, 2 hours isnt that much.. I know much ppl that play more..

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Old Jul 26, 2007, 10:05 AM // 10:05   #70
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Yanman, you need a kick in the ass.

Useless to blame anything. You need more activities, a balance so that important things like studies become more desirable.

20 pounds is nothing. Working out and running will become an habit once you've overcome the first hard steps, when your body adapts to the new conditions - that's when the real fun starts. Most give up at the beginning for they are untrained and not hardy. Give it some time and you'll notice that being in great physical shape/condition makes you feel very different. It's very very underestimated.
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Old Jul 26, 2007, 09:07 PM // 21:07   #71
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I find myself being bored of video games.... but I find nothing else to do.
I've been through phases like that myself. It turns out that sometimes, when you don't feel motivated to do anything anymore, and you don't enjoy anything, and most of your activities involve escaping reality (games, tv, drinking, etc.), you may be depressed. At least I was. In other cases, the problem is that you just need to get out and try other things, until you find something you actually like. Maybe there's something out there you'd really like to do, but don't know because you haven't tried it yet.

I think that if you're spending your free time doing things that are both boring and devoid of extrinsic value, then it is wasting your life.
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Old Jul 27, 2007, 12:12 AM // 00:12   #72
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Yanman you might want to try make programming a hobby. Think up an application and find out how to write it, it can be just addictive as GW.

Want to write windows programs like word in ? readup on the Windows API and learn how to use it or Swing if your doing Java.

Want to learn how to establish a connection and send data between computers ? and write an instant messenger ? research 'Winsock'.

Want to write a simple 2d game ? use SDL : http://www.libsdl.org/
Want to write a 3d game, opengl ?: http://nehe.gamedev.net/

Since your doing computer science you already have the preliminary knowledge so it wont be hugely difficulty.

Theres loads of stuff you could be doing.
On the other hand theres ecto farming,lightbringer farming, vanquishing etc
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Old Jul 27, 2007, 01:43 AM // 01:43   #73
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I found this on threadless.com and I feel it is relevant to this topic.


Joking aside, if you find balance in your enjoyment and do other things besides gaming/tv watching/pc usage then there is no harm in enjoying any of those things.
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Old Jul 27, 2007, 05:40 AM // 05:40   #75
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